I hate to be predictable – but this week’s news has been dominated by Pompeii and classical controversy, and I just can’t resist jumping in! For anyone who’s been living under a rock for the past week, here’s a round-up of what’s been going on.
The discovery
A discovery was made in Pompeii of a charcoal graffito which mentioned a date of 17th October, and it was posted on Instagram earlier this week. It’s a lovely little graffito which commemorates someone’s special binge-eating day – but that’s not what has drawn attention. No, we’re all fixated on the date: what are the implications, how much does it matter and can we agree to disagree?

What are the implications?
Pliny, our source for the dramatic story of the eruption of Vesuvius, tells us that the eruption took place on the 24th of August, 79CE. At least, he probably told us that: some people dispute the manuscript’s reliability. But if a charcoal graffito from 17th Oct was still preserved on a wall when the volcano blew, it suggests that the date of the eruption must have been later, presumably sometime in the autumn. This fits with some other evidence, like the presence of pomegranates (an autumn fruit) and the warm clothes that people were wearing. It’s a theory that has been around for a long time (I mentioned it myself, back in August), but this new evidence adds a little more weight to it.
How much does it matter?
The popular press have been enjoying this one: the story has appeared in numerous papers and news outlets around the world, as “a discovery that will rewrite history”. As far as the press is concerned, this is a revelation. You can read some of the UK’s press coverage here:
- The BBC
- The Telegraph
- The Guardian
- … and The Times, with my favourite headline: ‘Builder’s graffiti reveals truth about Pompeii’
Outside the mainstream media, some academics have questioned the value of the graffito: the main arguments are summed up by Peter Kruschwitz, who points out (among other objections) that charcoal marks indoors could have lasted a while. Scholars have also criticised the excitement around the discovery, asking whether the precise date of the disaster really makes any difference to anything. Prominent among those are Mary Beard, who concludes that the date doesn’t matter, and Neville Morley, who comes to the conclusion that perhaps it does matter. Reasons why it might matter have been presented by Kristina Killgrove in an article for Forbes and explained further on Twitter; the shift from summer to autumn can make a difference to interpretations of seasonal diseases, for instance.
Can we agree to disagree?
Unfortunately social media, as it often does, has turned nasty over the debate, raising questions about attitudes within the discipline of Classics. You can read a forceful critique of Mary Beard’s response in this thread by Kristina Killgrove, which contrasts the disciplines of Classics and Anthropology in terms of their entrenched attitudes and openness to new people and ideas. It also raises the issue of how we should use social media responsibly, and questions the status of junior female academics within Classics (an issue which Neville Morley picks up in the update to his original blog post, by exhorting people to read Killgrove’s piece as well as his). Whatever side you find yourself on in this debate, it certainly raises some important questions about scholarship.
Some final thoughts
There’s one thing about the press coverage which I find fascinating: the popular acceptance that the history books can be rewritten, and that knowledge is not fixed. As a Classics teacher, I spend a lot of time trying to teach people that the transmission of history should be treated critically: but perhaps, in these days of ‘fake news’, that’s become an obvious truism. People today approach information not with ‘humility’ (as the Italian Minister of Culture has said); instead we delight in the overturning of traditionally accepted ‘facts’. I see that as a good thing – although I may be in the minority!
I also may be in the minority in experiencing the almost irresistible urge to write something on my wall in charcoal and see how long it lasts. Is that just me?!
This week in other news…
News
Not all loot at the British Museum – The Guardian
… and British Museum Twitter takedown – RT
… and more on the British Museum – Forbes
Early Jerusalem – Live Science
New Orestes project – Institute of Classical Studies
Misusing Socrates – Huffington Post
Roman remains in Cumbria – Gov.uk
Graveyard of ancient ships – Neos Kosmos
Comment and opinion
Homer’s influence – TLS
Translating Homer – TLS
… and more Homer – TLS
… and Homer in Turkey – TLS
Advice on distance learning – Classical Fix
Pandora and technology – Project Syndicate
Animals and drinking vessels – Hyperallergic
Ares and misogynists – Pharos
Interpreting ancient music – Greek City Times
The Aeneid’s time warp – Medium
Experiencing the ancient world – Le Temps Revient
The difficulties of studying Carthaginian warfare – Ancient World Magazine
Ancient vampires? – New Atlas
When coins become counters – Coins at Warwick
Walpole the antiquarian – Strawberry Hill House
Using the EAGLE portal – Society for Classical Studies
What to do with an Ancient History PhD – Game Fragger
Sensory conference experiences – OU Classical Studies Blog
The Roman Brexit – The Conversation
How Latin got woke – The Nation
The number of the beast – Kiwi Hellenist
Prehistoric music? – New York Times
Reading Linear B – e-ni-jo-te
The myth of the Great Library – Ancient World Magazine
Himmler, white supremacy and the state of Classics today – LA Review of Books
Gladiator and The Bachelorette – GQ
What is ‘Classics’? – Quentin Broughall
Ancient middle-age spread – Greek Reporter
Visiting Plato’s Academy – Donald Robertson
Want to learn Sanskrit? – All Things Sanskrit
Latin Thriller – Medium
Podcasts, videos and other media
Returning to the Roman Baths – Archway Project
Propertius and his time – Literature and History
The history of language teaching – The Endless Knot
Fakes and forged antiquities – Ipse Dixit
Race and ethnicity – The History of Ancient Greece
Roundup of podcasts – The Partial Historians
Talking about Tiberius – Life of Caesar
Shakespeare’s Romans – BBC Radio 4
Appius Claudius takes centre stage – The Partial Historians
Tragedy music – Ataraxia Alpha
And finally…
What does Virgil want to tell you? Think of a problem you’re dealing with, and see what the Sortes Virgilianae have to say about it.
There’s nothing wrong with being predictable! I suspect this material will remain blog fodder for sometime to come. In all honesty, you beat me to it as I’d considered writing a piece about it but I couldn’t find a new angle. I like this piece because it focuses on the social media uproar that ensued. I’ve always believed and still do believe that platforms such as Twitter are excellent tools for spreading information and engaging in debate. That being said I do think that we all walk a fine line when we engage in such debates on social media. So many things can be misconstrued or misinterpreted. Disagreement is fine but as we’ve seen this week they’ve caused significant uproar in certain instances.
On another note I’ve seen many individuals leaping to Pliny’s defence! I was particularly amused my one post (I think it came from Valerie Hope) who proclaimed ‘Pliny in the wrong? Never!’ Although I’d be inclined to agree, I’m open to new interpretations as much as the next ‘open minded’ individual!
As to those who claim that the date doesn’t matter? Well, I don’t really feel strongly either way about that but any evidence that sheds new light and raises new questions has to be a good thing does it not?
Tony
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Sorry to jump on the bandwagon in front of you, Tony! And I confess I’m also in the ‘let’s defend Pliny’ camp. My opinion is not based on careful examination of the evidence, but on the fact that, ever since I was a kid, the 24th of August has stuck in my mind as Volcano Day – probably because it’s the day before my birthday! So I have no intention of abandoning one of the few dates I actually remember, purely on the basis of a pile of evidence to the contrary…!
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Hi Cora, Dr. Killgrove’s thread came up just as I was reading the course materials on bioarchaeology, so I reassured her that her area is being taught on at least one classics course. Do you know if that’s the norm on other classics MAs these days? Sofaer’s work (among others) has really opened my eyes to new methodologies that can be used to expand our knowledge of the past.
By the way, we have a chalk IOU list on our home blackboard and it has lasted quite a long while!
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Leigh, I think this MA is particularly cutting-edge – and the use of The Body in Antiquity as an overarching theme lends itself to all kinds of new techniques, of course.
Yes, I’m a bit dubious about the ‘charcoal doesn’t last long’ argument. In my regular mural-painting days I would use charcoal or chalk to sketch on walls, because they could be rubbed out without leaving grooves in plaster: but sometimes rubbing them out took considerable effort!
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Reblogged this on ClassicalFix and commented:
Nothing from me personally this week, but please do take the time to have a read of this great article by Dr Cora Beth Knowles on the recent debates surrounding the dating of the eruption of Vesuvius!
https://classicalstudies.support/2018/10/19/weekend-reading-volcanic-eruptions/
Agree or disagree this is certainly a hot topic at the moment and many people have waded into the discussion particularly on social media.
What do you think? As always, comments and opinions are more than welcome.
Tony
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